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| backbaymx (4/17/2007) Because the factory teams have unlimited amount of money to spend on parts and bikes.Privateers dont have unlimited amounts of parts and money, and they ride 4 strokes
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| | back bay has it right and to further that the factory bikes have much more to play with on junk strokes. as much as 10 more horse than prodution bikes and they typically cant make it thru a outdoor nat on the same engine in a weekend. hell twonlys bike couldnt even make it thru a short supercross one night.to quote roger D it put the sport back 25 years when privateers dont stand a chance aganst factory bikes. In fact more privateers are going to 450 class where the motors are more than anyone needs stock.making it a fighting chance.Thats the real story. |
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| | all I know is, when I had my 125, I was always working on it. Even if I went and rode it easy, something would brake. The bike always felt slow and sluggish, etc. I got the same year 250f (05), and I've been out on it twice, have only had to do normal maintainence, and not to mention i'm about twice as fast on the 250f. Or at least it feels that way, especially when you ride a 250f like a 2-stroke, they really rip. I cant believe how much harder the 250f pulls considering that 2-strokes make more power on top than a 4stroke. If 2strokes could produce torque, they would be insane. I'm sure if you put those fast kids out front on a 150f, then rode them back to back with a stock 85, they would end up getting ALOT faster on a 250f. A 150f cant keep up with a 112 2stroke, but imagine what happens when they go to turn the 150 into a big bore. They would leave the little 2strokes WAY behind I would imagine. I just cant wait to start racing, even though it looks as if the first couple races are gonna be equal to taking a bath in mud.
152- 125B '08 KX250f chaplinkawasaki.com |
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| | we have a 05 yz 125 with a ton of race and practice hours on it by a front of the pack youth b rider. bike is tight as a drum. other than one leaking fork seal ,total parts, couple of pistonskits coule of rings 4 base gaskets,one set of fibers hd clutch springs. normal stuff like rear brake shoes,ect. all pivots titght and original. rode a new kx and yz 250f this winter and was amazed how the bikes had no hit of power whatsoever.know i know its all about lap times.the owner of the kx thought i was full of it but when i begged him to ride my sons bike he wouldnt.ITactually convinced me to stick with a 2 stroke this year.in the 125 c class at wick with somewhat stock bikes the first 4 were on yz 125s.we have a 07 with a pipe v force 2 teeth on rear and a phathead which i thought was a gimmik untill we rode it.need 100 + gas bike flat out rips. I was even thing of buying a 250 tire for it and we were using a paddlle tire on it.like i said im no dummy and i know its about lap times but his bike was getting pulled by NO ONE. |
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| well it's good to hear that someone else has had good luck with the yz 125. Mine was ridden by an amateur for a season, although it was maintained very well. I got it, rode and maintained it as well as possible for a c rider with limited money for parts etc, and it literally fell apart. My CRF 250 went a whole season with just gas and oil changes, but this bike (the YZ 125) was clapped out the 4th time I rode it. I won't lie, it was a pretty sweet bike, but it really pissed me off coming off this one turn at mx 207 to be passed by anyone anywheres near me with a 250f, no matter HOW hard i came out of the corner. I was pretty much working against myself riding that bike. The bike definately helped me to become a better rider, as I got alot better on it last season. the first time I hopped on it I felt better than with my 4stroke, then it went downhill from there. Hopefully my YZ 250f will treat me well this season. I've already got a ton of time in the shop getting it ready. I honestly can't tell the difference in handling between the aluminum framed YZ and the steel frame 05 YZ-f. It may be because the YZ had suspension set up for a rider who was about 120 lbs, while i'm around 175. It definately helped me though and I'm happy I got to ride most of a season on a 125.. I always wanted to ride one.
152- 125B '08 KX250f chaplinkawasaki.com |
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| | good luck 152 y see you at 207 soon i hope. |
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| | You know, i ride a kx250f, but i wish that 2 strokes were the way to go because they are more fun to ride. With a four stroke, you can be lazy on the thing and be fast. On a 2 stroke, you had to ride it harder to go faster. On the maintenance thing though, I got my 06 KX250F new last year, and NOTHING has needed to be replaced on it other than filters, oil changes, gas, the usual. And the parts are way too expensive but back to back the 250f for most people is faster.
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| | My son rode his for the first time at hemonds and loved it. |
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